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Post by qichi on Nov 22, 2012 13:33:48 GMT 9
Just in time!! Here's the catcher, and here are the items you can get... I'm not into it, haha, and I'm honestly a bit bothered by the "Native American" items, but I'm not surprised, I guess the fruit basket is cute, though
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Post by Odi ♡ on Nov 22, 2012 14:21:27 GMT 9
I was wondering where all these Thanksgiving like items were coming from in the marketplace. lol.
And that one brown dress might be cute, though I would have to try it on to be certain.
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Post by becca on Nov 22, 2012 16:27:17 GMT 9
I'm honestly a bit bothered by the "Native American" items Yeah, it's giving me bad flashbacks of the Vintage Native American shop and the Fashion Show event. @___@ Couldn't they have made a turkey costume instead? lol
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Post by froufox on Nov 22, 2012 16:29:42 GMT 9
Ugh haha yes @ The Native American items in both this catcher and that dreadful event T-T. Then again, I think all the cultural and ethical underlying feelings aren't clear to them? But it's still pretty gross.
I won't be getting any of these items because of the ethical implications ^o^
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Post by spaceoddity13 on Nov 22, 2012 21:10:46 GMT 9
Girls, I risk sounding really ignorant here, but could someone explain to me what you find so outrageous about Native American-inspired outfits on Poupee? I understand how it can be viewed as inappropriate at Thanksgiving, but I don't get what's so wrong with it in general. I mean, I'm from the Central Europe and I grew up on adventure stories by Karl May (like "Winnetou"...) and others, which are more or less fairy-tales about the "Indians" without much accuracy, but as they were born from love and interest in the Native American culture, I don't find anything offensive about them at all. And it's similar for me with the NA-inspired clothes on Poupee. I just don't see anything disgusting or derogatory about using this inspiration. Also, of course the Japanese will not understand American taboos. (I'm not sure if I'm educated enough to understand them in their entirety, let alone adopt them.) They would most likely not make Ainu-inspired outfits though - every culture has their own skeletons in the closet.
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Post by froufox on Nov 22, 2012 21:24:53 GMT 9
Here are some links you can read! mycultureisnotatrend.tumblr.com/post/1218625935/accosted-by-racist-costumesnativeappropriations.blogspot.be/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriationI'm white too and European at that (i.e. a place that isn't willingly facing its colonialist roots and doesn't want to have honest conversations on racism) and I've often found myself wondering (and still do!) cynically that all cultures will ultimately mix and there’s no getting around that but I it's vital that I ask myself if this idea is perhaps instilled in me because my culture has still so many remnants of colonialism and teaches me it’s okay to use elements of another’s culture for my own personal gain? It is and it does and it's an everyday struggle to deny that and realise the consequences of living in this culture that denies our attitude could never be harmful to anyone. This isn't on Native American cultural appropriation but it's a personal essay that to me clearly shows the consequences of white people adopting things from another culture: makezine.enoughenough.org/indo.htmland it's also just really nice article that's beautifully written!
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Post by spaceoddity13 on Nov 22, 2012 21:48:31 GMT 9
Thank you froufox, I'll check these links as soon as I'm done with today's work! :)
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Post by Reimu on Nov 22, 2012 22:45:18 GMT 9
I kinda like these items, I might try it!
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Post by winston on Nov 23, 2012 3:32:39 GMT 9
This isn't on Native American cultural appropriation but it's a personal essay that to me clearly shows the consequences of white people adopting things from another culture: makezine.enoughenough.org/indo.htmland it's also just really nice article that's beautifully written! It really was a beautiful, insightful read - thanks Froufox
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